Psalm 82:6 "I say you are gods, you are all children of the Most High"
The trinitarians teach that Yahushua is called "god", therefore he is YHWH and thus proving their doctrines.
This misconception seems to be holding a lot of weight of the false doctrine, and if we can weaken or destroy that pillar, then there is a good chance many people's faith in this doctrine would start to collapse.
Allow your mind to hear and accept the truth, and do not willingly choose blindness so you do not have to change anything.
The world defines "god" as the most high being and the creator of existence.
If this definition was true, and the only meaning to "god", then you can see why so many people would think "god" means YHWH when this is what they're told and they have not read the bible to see the problems with these teachings.
(Again, let me repeat, read your Bible!)
However, their assumption is not right, "god" does not mean the most high who is YHWH.
"God" is a mistranslation, and likely should not have been used in the bible.
You could say it's correct if you want to define "god" Biblically, and show what it means in the Bible, though there appears to be no attempt at doing that.
So either "god" in English is missing the correct meaning, or you accept the word "god" to mean the most high being and the creator of existence and it being in the Bible is a mistranslation.
So to get to the point, "god" in the typical English Bible comes from translating the Hebrew word "elohim".
When the word "elohim" appears in the Hebrew scriptures, they have mostly chosen to translate that over to English as "god".
Notice I have said "mostly".
I'll give an example of Elohim to make sure you are understanding, the 1st verse of the bible in the KJV says;
"In the beginning God created".
Though it actually says;
"In the beginning Elohim created".
Now, elohim does not mean YHWH, elohim is a word with a meaning, much like lord, and any other word/title you can think of, and elohim is not a name.
Think of you working at a local job, and you call your manager "manager" to a friend of yours.
Then that friend starts thinking "manager" is that person's name, and anytime someone else says "manager" that person thinks of your 1 manager, in which you then correct them saying, no, that is my manager, it's not their name.
You would then probably wonder why that person doesn't know English well enough to know what you're talking about.
It's a similar situation with what modern men are doing with certain words in the Bible.
YHWH is our Elohim, and, the Elohim of elohim, but elohim does not mean YHWH, so let's stay focused on that.
The word elohim does not mean the same thing as the modern word "god".
The translations themselves bear great witness to this because even in the English bibles we have today, elohim has not only been translated to "god", but it has also been translated to things like "spirit", "divine beings", "angels", "judges", "mighty ones", "power", and "strength"!
Absorb that thought, because it's significant if you previously thought "god" only was applied to YHWH, and you hold certain teachings relying on that to be true when it's not.
So our common Bible translations have chosen to call other things "god", and we haven't realized due to it being lost in translation.
It seems that elohim is a word with a meaning having to do with power and greatness, and also authority.
Now, after going over those details, we can move on to the next part, and that is YHWH is not the only one called "elohim".
For example, heavenly beings are also called elohim.
So if the modern doctrines of men are correct in their claims and assumptions, then that would mean all of these heavenly beings also are the father.
They obviously are not, and have all came from the Father, the true Elohim, and Elohim of elohim.
Also, we have evidence from the scriptures that men who are judges can be referred to as "elohim", they too are obviously not the most high and source of existence, just because they may be referred to as "elohim".
I'll now give some scripture examples to validate what I am sharing.
One great example of heavenly-beings being called an elohim is when Jacob struggled with a "man" in the darkness all night and eventually realized it was no ordinary "man".
Later in the scriptures it calls this "man" that Jacob struggled with an angel.
Genesis 32:28 "Then he said, Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Yisrael, For you have striven with elohim and with men, and have prevailed”
The word that is striven in the above verse, in Hebrew the native speakers claim that the meaning is not 100% certain, there is 3 different meanings they say it could have and they are not sure which one it is for sure.
According to those fluent in Hebrew, it either means Prince, Striven, or Upright/Straight.
If it means Upright then Yisrael is the wrong name and it is actually Yasharel, but I won't get into that.
I think the sentence makes sense with the word striven, and many modernized new comers to the scriptures are not sure if he was fighting with YHWH or with an Angel, but if he was fighting with YHWH then it does not sound right to say Jacob prevailed against YHWH in a physical fight and that he gained a name declaring such to the world.. YHWH can crush all of existence if he wanted and has no equal whatsoever in intellect or might, so looking at the verse and understanding it to mean Jacob strove with elohim/gods(heavenly beings) and men, and has prevailed, makes sense.
Something interesting to think about, the name Yisrael means he fights with elohims/gods, in a sense this name is saying he is a god crusher/overcomer.
This name when understood by the enemies of Yisrael is very offensive, to the governments, and to the false religions, it basically says Yisrael overcomes all the powers of the world.
In the scriptures we see plenty of examples of Yisrael prevailing over the powers of the world and their idols, and brought them low. This is because of Yisrael's Elohim YHWH, and it is a declaration to all that YHWH is the Elohim of elohim, and the greatest.
Now back on track, when considering the context it looks obvious that it was not YHWH, see this verse;
Genesis 32:25 "And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh, and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was strained, as he wrestled with him"
Surely this was not YHWH, why would YHWH have had trouble prevailing against Jacob.. That idea is so twisted it pains me to even type it.
Then, later in the scriptures, it says this about the man Yisrael and the being he fought against;
Hosea 12:3 "In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he prevailed with elohim, Yes, he had power over the angel, and overcame, he wept and made supplication to him, he found him in Bethel and there he spoke with us"
The book Hosea calls the person Jacob fought with an angel, which if striven is the correct word then it seems like it is tying the word elohim to these heavenly beings that are more than mortal men.
Also in Genesis, Jacob calls the one he was face to face with elohim after he gets his new name Yisrael, so if it was an angel then this is evidence that angels/heavenly beings are called elohim;
Genesis 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, for I have seen elohim face to face, and my life is preserved"
An interesting example from a Psalm of David;
Psalm 8:4 "What is man, that you are mindful of him? and the son of man, that you visit him? For you have made him a little lower than the elohim, and have crowned him with glory and honor"
Notice how Psalm 8:4 says the elohim.. in most of the English versions they translate elohim here to Angels instead of "god/gods" like they do in other places.
The apostle Paul quotes Psalm 8:4 at Hebrews 2:6 and it is interesting to note that the Greek says "angels" as well like our English translations, showing that whoever wrote the Greek understood elohim to mean the heavenly beings.
If we apply this knowledge to what Paul says right after when he says the same about the Messiah, he probably also says "the elohim", expanding the evidence;
Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Yahushua, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, that he by the grace of Elohim should taste death for every man"
Also we should be considering what Yahushua himself said.
The point he makes goes against trinity doctrines.
John 10:34 "Yahushua answered them, Is it not written in your law 'I say You are Elohim'?, If he called them elohim to whom the word of Elohim came, and the scripture cannot be annulled, what about the one whom the Father set apart and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, I am the son of Elohim?"
I think he was referring to this scripture, I will make mention of singular and plural;
Psalm 82:1 "Elohim(Singular) stands in the congregation of the el(Plural), he judges among the elohim(Plural)"
Psalm 82:6 "I say you(plural) are elohim(Plural), you are all children of the Most High"
Psalm 82 by itself supports the fact that "elohim" is not only applied to YHWH, and goes against the trinity confusion.
We see Yahushua using the scripture to rebuke the people who were claiming Yahushua being a man was making himself elohim.
That is their accusation and claim.
Some more possible evidence, something Abraham said;
Genesis 20:13 "And it came to pass, when the
elohim(Plural) caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said to her, This is your kindness which you shall show to me, at every place where we shall come say of me, 'He is my brother'."
Abraham said elohim as Plural, and we know that Abraham knew YHWH was the most high Elohim and there was no other.
So this may be evidence of him calling something other than YHWH elohim.
I will try to update with further information on this point if I uncover more.
Another interesting scripture talking about a slave/servant and his Lord;
Exodus 21:5 "And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my Lord, my wife, and my children, I will not go out free, Then his Lord shall bring him to the elohim, he shall also bring him to the door, or to the door post, and his Lord shall bore his ear through with an awl and he shall serve him for ever"
The above scripture says elohim, but it does not seem to be talking about YHWH and it says "the elohim" instead of just "Elohim".
English translators translate elohim in this spot as judges.
Imagine how confused modern people would be if the translators stayed consistent with their translations, and translated the verse as "the gods", they would likely think that was a mistranslation because they've had the full information hidden from them.
Another example like the one above that does not seem to be talking about YHWH;
Exodus 22:8 "If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought to the elohim to see whether he have put his hand to his neighbor's goods"
Once again, most English bibles translate elohim in that verse as "judges", but the Hebrew says "the elohim".
In this verse modern translations call the city Nineveh elohim.
I do not really know how to best translate this verse myself either though, so I am just going to use the KJV and put the word elohim where it belongs;
Jonah 3:3 "So Yonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the word of YHWH. Now Nineveh was an elohim great city of three days' journey"
The KJV translates elohim in that verse as "exceeding".
Elohim of elohim
The Bible teaches us that YHWH is Elohim of the elohim, which may or may not mean that there are other beings known as elohim.
The verse also calls YHWH the Lord of the lords, which actually may help cause trinity confusion since the Messiah has a title of king of kings and lord of lords, which he is, and that authority was given to him from YHWH.
Deuteronomy 10:17 "For YHWH your Elohim is Elohim of the elohim, and the Lord of the lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome Elohim who does not show partiality nor take a bribe"
Another scripture showing angels/heavenly beings are called elohim;
Judges 13:20 "For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward the heavens from off the altar, that the angel of YHWH ascended in the flame of the altar, And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. But the angel of YHWH did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of YHWH, And Manoah said to his wife, We shall surely die because we have seen elohim"
The scripture says that Manoah knew the being was an angel.
Then right after it states that he knew it was an angel, Manoah says that they seen an elohim.
I think the literal Hebrew may show this better than the English translation.
Let me mention again since it may be important to someone, angel means messenger.
Another good example connecting angels to elohim;
Zechariah 12:8 "In that day shall YHWH defend the inhabitants of Yerusalem, and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David, and the house of David shall be as elohim, as an angel of YHWH before them"
1 Samuel 28:3
Another interesting example from the scriptures is when King Shaul, the very first king of Yisrael, wrongfully sought out a medium to communicate with Samuel when he was dead;
1 Samuel 28:3 "Now Samuel was dead, and all Yisrael had lamented him and buried him in Ramah, in his own city. And Shaul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land, And the Philistines gathered themselves together and came and pitched in Shunem, and Shaul gathered all Yisrael together and they pitched in Gilboa, And when Shaul saw the host of the Philistines he was afraid and his heart greatly trembled, And when Shaul inquired of YHWH, YHWH did not answer him, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets, Then said Shaul to his servants, Seek me a woman that has a familiar spirit, that I may go to her and inquire of her, And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that has a familiar spirit at Endor, And Shaul disguised himself and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night, and he said, I pray you divine to me by the familiar spirit and bring me him up whom I shall name to you, And the woman said to him, Behold, you know what Shaul has done, how he has cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land, why then lay you a snare for my life to cause me to die?
And Shaul swore to her by YHWH, saying, As YHWH lives, there shall no punishment happen to you for this thing, Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up to you? And he said, Bring me up Samuel, And when the woman saw Samuel she cried with a loud voice, and the woman spoke to Shaul saying, Why have you deceived me? for you are Shaul, And the king said to her, Be not afraid, for what saw you? And the woman said to Shaul, I saw elohim(plural) ascending out of the earth, And he said to her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man comes up and he is covered with a mantle, And Shaul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself"
The medium said she seen elohim(plural) coming up out of the earth.
The main point I wanted to share with this example is she said elohim(plural), and was not talking about YHWH our Elohim, though this is a sinning medium so it may not be the best evidence.
Here is a psalm seemingly calling a king that is not YHWH "elohim", and then talking about the king's elohim which would be YHWH;
Psalm 45:1 "My heart is gushing a good matter, I speak of the things which I have made touching the king, my tongue is the pen of a ready writer, You are fairer than the children of men, grace is poured into your lips, therefore Elohim has blessed you for ever, Gird your sword on your thigh, O mighty one, with your glory and your majesty, And in your majesty ride prosperously because of truth and humility and righteousness, and your right hand shall teach you awesome things, Your arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies, whereby the people fall under you, Your throne O elohim is for ever and ever, the scepter of your kingdom is a right scepter, You love righteousness, and hate wickedness, therefore elohim, your Elohim, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows,
All your garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made you glad, Kings' daughters were among your honorable women, on your right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir, Listen, O daughter, and consider, and incline your ear, forget also your own people, and your father's house, So shall the king greatly desire your beauty, for he is your Lord, worship him"
There is more for me to say about the above scripture because Paul quotes it tying it to Yahushua the Messiah, which I will write up later.
1 Corinthians 8:5
Here is another example where the scriptures say that there are many elohim.
It also differentiates between YHWH our Elohim, and the Messiah, our Lord/Master.;
1 Corinthians 8:5 "For though there be that are called elohim, whether in the heavens or in the earth, as there be many elohim, and many lords, but to us, there is but one Elohim, the Father, of whom are all things and we in him, and one Lord, Yahushua the Messiah, by whom are all things and we by him"
I will go back over that it may sound like me and the scriptures are making a contradiction to some people by saying there is no other Elohim than YHWH, and then also showing scriptures teach there are many things called Elohim..
There is surely no Elohim other than YHWH, he is the Elohim of elohim.. I do not find it to be a contradiction at all.
(I may update with scriptures to support this.)
Just like there is truly no other Judge other than YHWH, and yet we can go out and see judges in our world, also maybe you would say there is truly no other Father than YHWH since he is the true source of all things, and yet we can go out and see earthly fathers.
The scriptures never contradict, it is the way we are understanding that creates various contradictions.
So though people may call heavenly beings elohim in the scriptures, this does not mean these heavenly beings are anything like YHWH.
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